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[Commieslav 195]

Hi! I've recently started working on a WW1 scenario,and I plan on making it as realistic as possible. There will be somewhat realistic economy of each country I could find resources for,mobilization numbers,civilian satisfaction,rebelliousness,borders and government types. Each important country (and some smaller ones) will have unique events,which will be divided into economic and national events (HoI4,please don`t sue me). These events will then further be divided into three paths: historical, alternative #1 (leftist and center), alternative #2 (rightist and center).

Current progress field: events for Austria-Hungary: historical path

Edited December 8, 2020 by Commieslav
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[Sarekreiz 111]

Interesting

[Commieslav 195]

Since the topic got buried under spam bots, I'll use the method of @Chairman Baad and "bump" the post.

[St.Chmnd 125]

Hello @Commieslav! 

If I had to recommend some sites, those would be this ones:

http://w.ethnia.org/?SL=en 

https://www.worldstatesmen.org/

From personal experience, the two sites are more than useful for things as leaders, political entities, ethnicities, administrative divisions and similar stuff.

For flags and related vexillological topics, https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ , is always a good start. I also reccommend searching in other vexillology sites for guidance (http://www.vexilla-mundi.com/; http://www.loeser.us/flags/;https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/; http://www.vexillographia.ru/ind_eng.htm (Russian and English), and http://www.rbvex.it/ (Italian)), since they sometimes have information unique to them; or flags in better quality. Semi related, but http://hubert-herald.nl/ could also prove itself useful when designing new flags, which include coats of arms.

Wikipedia seems like another obvious start, and Wikimedia (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page), proves itself to be useful when searching for specific topics (also useful for more HD flags).

Appart from Ethnia.org, for leaders (specifically monarchies), https://www.royalark.net/index.html is a good start.

Maps and general borders are a little bit more tricky;  https://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/haindex.html is a simple (and old) site,but it gives a general idea of borders and has a great amount of external links and bibliography to guide oneself through one's project. The same goes for https://www.euratlas.com/ and https://omniatlas.com/ (Though the latter seems more practical).

Mapping youtube channels have also seemed useful for me in the past: https://www.youtube.com/c/OllieBye/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/c/EmperorTigerstar/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoUOxixxnTi_Po8eSbfgFGQ/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/c/KayraAtakanQırımXanı/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCALevyiz56wJBIHZFmw_k5A/videos; etc. All at the least help one visualize the movement of somethings in a moving map. Talking about youtube, and the specific topic of WWI, I should also recommend taking a look at https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar .

For the specific topic of the Middle East, maye this ones could be useful: https://www.houshamadyan.org/mapottomanempire.html; https://gulf2000.columbia.edu/maps.shtml; http://www.irancarto.cnrs.fr/ ; https://www.wdl.org/en/item/18813/ ; https://joshuaproject.net/clusters/111 [Note: Joshua project is more useful for talking about people and the area that they inhabit , since it groups them by groups; but the "christian %" isn't much useful for your scenario];  https://sites.google.com/site/sauditribes/ ; https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4232359/saudi_arabia_early_1900s.gif ( A more "HD" version of one of many "Joaquín de Salas Vara del Rey" maps. Try searching for some of his stuff; most of it it's lost to time or in low quality now, but you may get one of the good ones from out there); https://recortesdeorientemedio.com/mapas-de-oriente-medio/ (in spanish); http://discoversinai.net/english/map-of-bedouin-tribes-egypt/8610 (Specific to the Sinai Penninsula).

For now, that's all I can remember that could be helpful to you. I hope that this information may be useful to your work, and I wish you the best of luck!

If I find anymore information or sources, I'll try to post them.

[Commieslav 195]

6 hours ago, St.Chmnd said:

Hello @Commieslav! 

If I had to recommend some sites, those would be this ones:

http://w.ethnia.org/?SL=en 

https://www.worldstatesmen.org/

From personal experience, the two sites are more than useful for things as leaders, political entities, ethnicities, administrative divisions and similar stuff.

For flags and related vexillological topics, https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ , is always a good start. I also reccommend searching in other vexillology sites for guidance (http://www.vexilla-mundi.com/; http://www.loeser.us/flags/;https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/; http://www.vexillographia.ru/ind_eng.htm (Russian and English), and http://www.rbvex.it/ (Italian)), since they sometimes have information unique to them; or flags in better quality. Semi related, but http://hubert-herald.nl/ could also prove itself useful when designing new flags, which include coats of arms.

Wikipedia seems like another obvious start, and Wikimedia (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page), proves itself to be useful when searching for specific topics (also useful for more HD flags).

Appart from Ethnia.org, for leaders (specifically monarchies), https://www.royalark.net/index.html is a good start.

Maps and general borders are a little bit more tricky;  https://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/haindex.html is a simple (and old) site,but it gives a general idea of borders and has a great amount of external links and bibliography to guide oneself through one's project. The same goes for https://www.euratlas.com/ and https://omniatlas.com/ (Though the latter seems more practical).

Mapping youtube channels have also seemed useful for me in the past: https://www.youtube.com/c/OllieBye/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/c/EmperorTigerstar/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoUOxixxnTi_Po8eSbfgFGQ/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/c/KayraAtakanQırımXanı/videos ; https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCALevyiz56wJBIHZFmw_k5A/videos; etc. All at the least help one visualize the movement of somethings in a moving map. Talking about youtube, and the specific topic of WWI, I should also recommend taking a look at https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar .

For the specific topic of the Middle East, maye this ones could be useful: https://www.houshamadyan.org/mapottomanempire.html; https://gulf2000.columbia.edu/maps.shtml; http://www.irancarto.cnrs.fr/ ; https://www.wdl.org/en/item/18813/ ; https://joshuaproject.net/clusters/111 [Note: Joshua project is more useful for talking about people and the area that they inhabit , since it groups them by groups; but the "christian %" isn't much useful for your scenario];  https://sites.google.com/site/sauditribes/ ; https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4232359/saudi_arabia_early_1900s.gif ( A more "HD" version of one of many "Joaquín de Salas Vara del Rey" maps. Try searching for some of his stuff; most of it it's lost to time or in low quality now, but you may get one of the good ones from out there); https://recortesdeorientemedio.com/mapas-de-oriente-medio/ (in spanish); http://discoversinai.net/english/map-of-bedouin-tribes-egypt/8610 (Specific to the Sinai Penninsula).

For now, that's all I can remember that could be helpful to you. I hope that this information may be useful to your work, and I wish you the best of luck!

If I find anymore information or sources, I'll try to post them.

Thank you! I will use these sources to their full potential. Meanwhile I found something that I'll specify in the "update" (original post edit). I might also publish this one,at first I didn't want to because a lot of ww1 scenarios already exist,but I'll try to make this more than just a scenario 🙂

[Commieslav 195]

Hello people following this topic! I ask for your help yet again.

When adding pictures for leaders,do I have to type in the picture link into the "Picture:" tab or do I need to download the picture and put the file in the tab?

Also,map pictures coming soon.

[Commieslav 195]

Unfortunately the leaders may not be added,because the AoH2 keyboard on Android does not have the "/" sign which is needed for links. I cannot transfer the app to my PC and work from there,because in order to do that,I`d have to utilize Bluestacks,which my pc can`t handle due to it being old.

I`ll see what else I can do.

[Commieslav 195]

Hello people! Here some images of the world map as of right now. This is probably the final version:

As you can see Denmark holds Iceland,Faroe Islands and Greenland,while Svalbard is uncolonized (became part of Norway in 1925.)Arabian states of Jabal Shammar,Nejd and Hejaz are also here. Notice how only the eastern half of Hejaz is a country (since the western part of Hejaz was in the official Ottoman borders). The south remains uncolonized since the majority of sources and maps with Nejd have these borders.I included Afghanistan, Nepal and Bhutan in British India, because they were British protectorates. Instead of usual Thailand there's the Rattanakosin Kingdom,Mongolia is the Bogd Khanate and Tibet is independent (it was de facto independent,just like Mongolia),the remnants of French India are there,with the cities of Pondichéry,Yanaon and Chandernagor (they might not correspond perfectly,but it is what it is). Germany has Qingdao and Philippines are part of the USA.If you have a sharp eye,you may notice another de facto state,the Sultanate of Aussa. Britain and France have some parts of to-be Italian North and East Africa (British Somaliland and parts of Libya).Union of South Africa is here because they were a dominion. Brighter colored Mexico are the rebels (Zapatists and such) and the rebels (as a civ) are 3rd party rebels,I couldn't make them as another Mexico. The USA has Panama,Honduras, Nicaragua,Cuba,Haiti, Dominican Republic because they were their protectorates in 1913.Canada and Newfoundland are independent because dominions.British Malaya,Dutch East Indies,German New Guinea and French Indochina are all here. NZ and Australia are independent because they were also dominions.

[Commieslav 195]

Map edit: Fixed Belize and gave it to Britain!

[Commieslav 195]

HUGE UPDATE: ECONOMY, STARTING MILITARY, HAPPINESS AND TECH. LEVEL ARE DONE! ALL THAT'S LEFT ARE EVENTS,WHICH I'LL DIVIDE INTO 3 PARTS:

historical

alternative #1

alternative #2

[WorldStadiums 65]

On 26/11/2020 at 6:45, Commieslav said:

¡Hola gente! Aquí algunas imágenes del mapa mundial a partir de ahora. Esta es probablemente la versión final:

Como puede ver, Dinamarca tiene Islandia, las Islas Feroe y Groenlandia, mientras que Svalbard no está colonizada (se convirtió en parte de Noruega en 1925). Los estados árabes de Jabal Shammar, Nejd y Hejaz también están aquí. Observe cómo solo la mitad oriental de Hejaz es un país (ya que la parte occidental de Hejaz estaba en las fronteras oficiales otomanas). El sur permanece sin colonizar ya que la mayoría de las fuentes y mapas con Nejd tienen estas fronteras. yo incluía Afganistán, Nepal y Bután en la India británica, porque eran protectorados británicos. En lugar de la Tailandia habitual, está el Reino de Rattanakosin, Mongolia es el Bogd Kanato y el Tíbet es independiente (era de facto independiente, al igual que Mongolia), los restos de la India francesa están allí, con las ciudades de Pondichéry, Yanaon y Chandernagor (podrían no corresponde perfectamente, pero es lo que es). Alemania tiene Qingdao y Filipinas es parte de Estados Unidos. Si  tiene buen ojo, puede notar otro estado de facto, el Sultanato de Aussa. Gran Bretaña y Francia tienen algunas partes del futuro norte y este de África italiana (Somalilandia británica y partes de Libia). La Unión de Sudáfrica está aquí porque eran un dominio. El México de colores más brillantes son los rebeldes (zapatistas y demás) y los rebeldes (como civilización) son rebeldes de terceros, no podría convertirlos en otro México. Estados Unidos tiene a Panamá, Honduras, Nicaragua, Cuba, Haití, República Dominicana porque eran sus protectorados en 1913. Canadá y Terranova son independientes porque dominan . La Malaya británica, las Indias Orientales Holandesas, la Nueva Guinea alemana y la Indochina francesa están todas aquí. Nueva Zelanda y Australia son independientes porque también eran dominios.

I think it is much better if you add Afghanistan, Bhutan and Nepal as vassal states, as well as the British Raj and other colonies

[Commieslav 195]

1 hour ago, WorldStadiums said:

I think it is much better if you add Afghanistan, Bhutan and Nepal as vassal states, as well as the British Raj and other colonies

I could do that with their protectorates,but the Raj isn't becoming a vassal. The Raj had it's first representative government after WW1.

[Commieslav 195]

1 hour ago, WorldStadiums said:

I think it is much better if you add Afghanistan, Bhutan and Nepal as vassal states, as well as the British Raj and other colonies

There will be a federalization path (events) for each colonial empire,so there will be vassal colonies.

[Commieslav 195]

I have decided to add events and work on the scenario up to the Turkish War of Independence, since the interwar period starts roughly after it.

[Prophetthe1 93]

looks great, the only gripe i have is that Afghanistan is under britain in that map, when in reality they only accepted british suzerainty

[Prophetthe1 93]

As well as the fact that the US occupied cuba from 1898-1902, 1906-1909,1 912, and  1917-1922, Haiti was occupied starting in 1915, and the Dominican Republic was (continuously) occupied starting from 1916

[Commieslav 195]

11 hours ago, Prophetthe1 said:

looks great, the only gripe i have is that Afghanistan is under britain in that map, when in reality they only accepted british suzerainty

I decided to give Afghanistan,Nepal and Bhutan all to Britain, because they were British protectorates (technically under their rule,and Afghanistan broke free from the crown in 1919). About the Antilles, that's a bit weird,since the maps I used showed the countries I gave to the US as their protectorates in 1914 and 1913. I'll look more into CA and the Antilles,thanks for pointing it out!

[Commieslav 195]

Map edit: Honduras,Cuba,Haiti and Dominican Republic are independent! The US will get events further on for the occupation of these states. Thanks to @Prophetthe1 for pointing out the mistake.

[Commieslav 195]

The development of this scenario has been halted due to issues with porting the app to my computer (for flag and leader purposes).

[Commieslav 195]

Hello everyone. I'm sad to announce the official death of this scenario. Unfortunately none of the custom civs I made in the editor got saved,and they are nowhere to be found in the files,which prevents me from adding trustworthy and accurate flags, therefore making it impossible to make the majority of alternative events. Until I find a way to successfully port the files to my pc and access them (app got ported,the files didn't),make a backup file and then reset everything or until AoH2 somehow decides to be a good game,this scenario is dead.

[Prophetthe1 93]

28 minutes ago, Commieslav said:

Hello everyone. I'm sad to announce the official death of this scenario. Unfortunately none of the custom civs I made in the editor got saved,and they are nowhere to be found in the files,which prevents me from adding trustworthy and accurate flags, therefore making it impossible to make the majority of alternative events. Until I find a way to successfully port the files to my pc and access them (app got ported,the files didn't),make a backup file and then reset everything or until AoH2 somehow decides to be a good game,this scenario is dead.

have you rooted your phone? if you have then you can access a file directly from MT manager

[Commieslav 195]

4 minutes ago, Prophetthe1 said:

have you rooted your phone? if you have then you can access a file directly from MT manager

I did actually. And MT Manager is exactly what I'm using to organize and access the game files. The thing is,when I enter the civilization_editor folder, it's empty. Although I've made custom civs such as Szeklerland,German Bohemia and German Sudetenland.

Edited December 9, 2020 by Commieslav
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[Prophetthe1 93]

7 minutes ago, Commieslav said:

I did actually. And MT Manager is exactly what I'm using to organize and access the game files. The thing is,when I enter the civilization_editor folder, it's empty. Although I've made custom civs such as Szeklerland,German Bohemia and German Sudetenland.

you might have to extract the --- maybe?

[Commieslav 195]

9 minutes ago, Prophetthe1 said:

you might have to extract the --- maybe?

I've done that multiple times. Extracted it to MTM itself and later into a .rar archive on my pc. None worked. I might know what the problem is,and if it is actually what I think it is, I'd have to re-install the game and start from scratch.

[Commieslav 195]

Bumping this as spam bots post in scenarios-offtopic from some reason.

Also,I might release a beta of the scenario with one incomplete (guess why)  event for A-H (federalization-United States of Greater Austria). It still needs German Bohemia,German Sudet,German Austria,east and west Galicia, Vojvodina, a monarchist Slovakia and a proper flag for Szeklerland.