List of significant flaws in the WWII scenario

[Mirolit 185]

In the new video about the WWII scenario, I noticed quite a large number of flaws with borders/ countries:

1) Italian Kingdom. Inaccurate border with Yugoslavia: Ljubljana and present-day western Slovenia were captured by Italy only in 1941 during the partition of Yugoslavia. Thus, Italy has extra provinces north of Istria here. Italy should also have Zadar and a number of islands in the Adriatic south of Istria (including Cres). In addition, it's unclear from the video whether the Dodecanese Islands belong to Italy.

2) Estonia. In 1920-1944, Estonia (later the Estonian SSR) included Ivangorod (Yanilinn in Estonian spelling) and Pechora (Petseri in Estonian spelling, I forgot to circle it on the screenshot).

3) China. There're several mistakes here. I'll start from the upper left corner counterclockwise: there should be Tunganistan (autonomy in southern Xinjiang). The border of Tibet should be much further east, Tibet was adjacent to the Yunnan clique. In addition, independent Tibetan tribes (with whom the Ma clique was at war) were further north. The Sichuan clique should be located to the east of Tibet. The Yunnan clique controlled a large strip to the northeast, with the city of Zhaotong. Besides the New Guangxi clique, there was the Guangdong clique. The Shanghai settlement should be presented as a separate civilization with a guarantee of independence from the Great Powers. In addition, after the First Battle of Shanghai (1932), the rest of Shanghai, Suzhou and Kunshan became a demilitarized zone, so it's also worth making this territory a separate vassal civilization. The territory east of Beijing, which belongs to Japan here, should be a separate Autonomy of Eastern Hubei. In 1936, there were two different Ma cliques (Qinghaian Ma clique and Ningxian Ma clique), which were ruled by different branches of the Ma family. Finally, it's worth renaming "blue" China to the Republic of China, and "red" China to the Chinese Soviet Republic. In fact, there may be even more corrections, but I think that adding Tibetan monastic kingdoms, small cliques, all colonial settlements in China and the Kingdom of Mustang in Nepal would be too much. So the above edits, I think, are sufficient for this part of map.

4) Other flaws. Newfoundland should be a separate dominion (it had an identical status with Canada in 1936). Something strange happened to Spanish Morocco (France controls part of it), there should also be an International Tangier zone in this scenario. Egypt has been de jure independent since 1922, and in 1936 this was confirmed by another treaty (Anglo-Egyptian Sudan remained a colony until the 1950s). Britain should control the southwestern part of modern Cameroon (the so-called British Mandate of Cameroon). Senussi should be in Cyrenaica.

If maps with borders or list of leaders needed to fix these flaws, I can help with that.

Edited June 1 by Mirolit

[Wayne23lololh 1,625]

Province issues here are  in Istria, in Estonia and in Spanish Morocco. And you're right, it should be fixed, but Łukasz says he will not edit provinces now, we should fix it by map editor.

Example of what it should be fixed :

Istria :

 

 Sudetenland :

 

 

Edited June 1 by Wayne23lololh

[Mirolit 185]

14 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Istria :

Fiume should be a separate province, too. 

Ideally, the former Austrian Silesia should consist of several provinces (for example, for the principality of Troppau), and there should also be German-speaking exclaves in Moravia, but this is definitely the lot of mods.

[Wayne23lololh 1,625]

2 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

Fiume should be a separate province, too. 

Ideally, the former Austrian Silesia should consist of several provinces (for example, for the principality of Troppau), and there should also be German-speaking exclaves in Moravia, but this is definitely the lot of mods.

I still hope that he will fix that in updates, it is better to dont need to install mods to have accurate scenarios.

[Mirolit 185]

10 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

Fiume should be a separate province, too. 

Ideally, the former Austrian Silesia should consist of several provinces (for example, for the principality of Troppau), and there should also be German-speaking exclaves in Moravia, but this is definitely the lot of mods.

province for Prekmurje would also be useful.

[Wayne23lololh 1,625]

Wait, the video is deleted !

 

[Mirolit 185]

22 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Wait, the video is deleted !

 

It's just a YouTube bug

[Wayne23lololh 1,625]

1 hour ago, Mirolit said:

It's just a YouTube bug

Or it is the A-H problem ? YouTube usually censored him

[Naval 210]

2 hours ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Wait, the video is deleted !

 

Yeah, video deleted. hmmmmm .... why....

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3 hours ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Wait, the video is deleted !

 

Not deleted , look at the playlist

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finland should be a different color too as too similer to ussr which it borders

 

soviet union one province isnt part of it its i the middle doesnt look like its assigned to the ussr when it should be part of the ussr

 

Belgian Congo and egypt should be puppets not parts of Belguim and uk directly

 

yemen color should be different as its too similar to uk occupied yemen which it borders

[Mirolit 185]

A couple of new mistakes: something strange (already reported above) in the Soviet Union (probably just an unassigned province) and a unified Malaysia (in reality, in 1936, there were 9 different colonies and protectorates: Federated Malayan States, 4 non-federated States, Straits-Settlements, Kingdom of Sarawak, North Borneo protectorate and Brunei).

Edited June 1 by Mirolit

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Hello Lukas, I noticed in ur ww2 scenario that none of the suggestions that I showed u were the first page of these messeges made it into the game (go to first page of dms to see them they r basically (Spanish Civil War, UK owns the canal province in Egypt as USA does to Panama, syria and Lebanon as puppets of syria, aswell as alawite and druze state there) also yemen the British part is basically lots of tribes not just British control for example the kathiri/sultanate of sieyun aswell as the qu'aiti or the qu'aiti sultanate of shihr and mukalla missing civilizations in China & also Belgian Congo should be there instead of Belgium please refer to the first page to see province maps of China for example hwo it appeared in a mod in hoi4 that showed the world more realistically (the new ways mod which improved China, yemen & lots of regions in hoi4 so much check it out) oh and there is also supposed to be 2 omans the normal Oman and the immate of Oman the normal one ig Is sunni and the other ibadi 

 

All of these r found in the new ways hoi4 mod if anyone wants to send images of how yemen, China or lebanon/syria appear there 

 

 

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[Mirolit 185]

5 minutes ago, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa said:

Yes, it would be even better, but this level of detail (by the way, not all Chinese clicks are displayed correctly) would be more suitable for mods (as in White Victory, for example, or TBoaNE, where all the Yemeni Emirates are detailed. In both mods there is also the Imamate of Oman)

Edited June 1 by Mirolit

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2 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

Yes, it would be even better, but this level of detail (by the way, not all Chinese clicks are displayed correctly) would be more suitable for mods (as in White Victory, for example, or TBoaNE, where all the Yemeni Emirates are detailed; in both mods there is also the Imamate of Oman)

i updated photos (added 2)

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incorrect yemen borders aswell

princly states in india (atleast add biggest ones lukas) also how china could look in aoh3 as shown in aoh2 expanded/better china /more realsitic china and india

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[Mirolit 185]

23 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

Yes, it would be even better, but this level of detail (by the way, not all Chinese clicks are displayed correctly) would be more suitable for mods (as in White Victory, for example, or TBoaNE, where all the Yemeni Emirates are detailed. In both mods there is also the Imamate of Oman)

The Middle East and Malaya in the WV mod for AoH2, as an example (this is an alternative 1936 history, so we can see that Turkey is divided by the Treaty of Sevres, and Iraq is still a British mandate)

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also sultanate of aussa is missing ethopia

[Mirolit 185]

1 minute ago, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa said:

also sultanate of aussa is missing ethopia

The sames as Senussi in Cyrenaica

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Also by jan 1936 the italian ethopian war was already ongoing for a year and these r some of the rough representions of control during janauray of 1936 so it wasnt peaceful and italy had a few provinces in the north while having quite abit in the south

 

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[OwnM3Z0 1,086]

1 minute ago, Mirolit said:

The sames as Senussi in Cyrenaica

i think we can all agree this scenario is pretty badly made, hopefully lukasz is fixing it

[Wayne23lololh 1,625]

4 hours ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Wait, the video is deleted !

 

There is a little misunderstanding there, I though that the video was deleted, but it is classed unlisted. 

 traduction : Non répertoriée : unlisted

 

[Wayne23lololh 1,625]

1 minute ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

i think we can all agree this scenario is pretty badly made, hopefully lukasz is fixing it

Have some errors is alright, if Łukasz would fix it. (hope so)

[Mirolit 185]

Just now, Unity said:

Bruh the scenario is still early he's obviously working on it

That's why we point out these inaccuracies - to help correct them and not to criticize Lukasz.