List of significant flaws in the WWII scenario

[Mirolit 173]

Just now, Unity said:

Bruh the scenario is still early he's obviously working on it

That's why we point out these inaccuracies - to help correct them and not to criticize Lukasz. 

[Mirolit 173]

6 minutes ago, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa said:

Also by jan 1936 the italian ethopian war was already ongoing for a year and these r some of the rough representions of control during janauray of 1936 so it wasnt peaceful and italy had a few provinces in the north while having quite abit in the south

 

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In 1936, Aussa was in the war on the side of Italy

[Wayne23lololh 905]

This is rather an idea than correction, but add for colonies a more lighter border color would be great :

(forget about Ethiopia)

 

[Wayne23lololh 905]

Make Poland or Netherlands lighter :

[OwnM3Z0 499]

14 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

Have some errors is alright, if Łukasz would fix it. (hope so)

don't forget that you can edit the base game scenarios now, meaning we could add these if he doesn't, not a good excuse for him to not edit it but it's a good plan B

[Mirolit 173]

11 minutes ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

don't forget that you can edit the base game scenarios now, meaning we could add these if he doesn't, not a good excuse for him to not edit it but it's a good plan B

Of course, we can change this on our own, but we're talking about flaws in the scenarios, which affects the final look of the game. Imagine if, in conditional EU4, conditional Castile had a piece of Portugal, the Ming Empire wouldn't have part of the provinces, and the Aztecs simply would not 've been added. I can also give an example of an old flaw with borders of Canada from AoH2

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17 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

Of course, we can change this on our own, but we're talking about flaws in the scenarios, which affects the final look of the game. Imagine if, in conditional EU4, conditional Castile had a piece of Portugal, the Ming Empire wouldn't have part of the provinces, and the Aztecs simply would not 've been added. I can also give an example of an old flaw with borders of Canada from AoH2

i think we can agree im the LAST person to say ''just add it yourself'' or ''wait for mods lmao'' when talking about a needed feature, i mock those people very much publicly on here. this is just a plan B for if lukasz decided NOT to listen to the community, i think he should 100% should the scenario is dogwater lmao

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49 minutes ago, Wayne23lololh said:

This is rather an idea than correction, but add for colonies a more lighter border color would be great :

(forget about Ethiopia)

 

and also realistic colonies like that should be present too🙂 

Edited June 1 by aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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the indian princly states are missing atleast add the biggest like hydrabad baloch & the other big ones also see how aoh2 mod adds them all aswell as a better china which has been mentioned earlier

[qxz 466]

Will be fixed for sure

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59 minutes ago, qxz said:

Will be fixed for sure

i thought it was u lukas respodning i was like yay the ww2 scenrio is compelelty about to get fixed all its aspects /issues lol but then oh its qxz instead lol

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@Łukasz Jakowski

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we didnt get a proper/real/fully accurate modern day scenrio w civil wars and what not so if we dont get a perfect atleast ww2 scenrio (w all the african colonies,syria & leb, yemen egypt, canal provinces, proper china & india) then imma be pretty sad welp

Edited June 1 by aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[OwnM3Z0 499]

6 minutes ago, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa said:

we didnt get a proper/real/fully accurate modern day scenrio w civil wars and what not so if we dont get a perfect atleast ww2 scenrio (w all the african colonies,syria & leb, yemen egypt, canal provinces, proper china & india) then imma be pretty sad welp

civil wars ≠ literal entire civilizations missing from the map and inaccurate borders 

[bun_dha4 221]

bukovina and upper silesia have truly been fixed compared to aoh2 in this scenario but...

we sacrifice istria (which still looked innacurate but it's now more), southern dobruja, some part on pomerania that's not illustrated here.
there are wrong borders (arabia-iraq, arabia-jordan, the southern british cameroons, etc) that can't be illustrated with the actual provinces in the game.

and liberia and the portuguese guinea are missing.

and last but not least important:
south africa could use 2 enclaves and a walvis bay
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Edited June 1 by bun_dha4

[Mirolit 173]

48 minutes ago, bun_dha4 said:

arabia-iraq, arabia-jordan

Arabia - Kuwait, too. There was 2 neutral zones (between Saudi Arabia and Iraq, between Saudi Arabia and Kuwait)

[Mirolit 173]

51 minutes ago, bun_dha4 said:

liberia and the portuguese guinea are missing

They are present on the map

[bun_dha4 221]

3 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

They are present on the map

missing civs. the borders are there but it's unnasigned land.

[Mirolit 173]

1 hour ago, bun_dha4 said:

south africa could use 2 enclaves and a walvis bay

These 2 are Basutoland protectorate (modern-day Lesotho) and Swaziland protectorate (Swaziland was renamed Eswatini a few years ago), and no, Walvis Bay shown red is a mistake on the above map (QBAM Project, i think?): it already belonged to the SAU until 1919, before the SAU took control of the mandate of Southwest Africa. In short, Walvis Bay should be in SAU, as it is

Edited June 1 by Mirolit

[bun_dha4 221]

39 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

These 2 are Basutoland protectorate (modern-day Lesotho) and Swaziland protectorate (Swaziland was renamed Eswatini a few years ago), and no, Walvis Bay shown red is a mistake on the above map: it already belonged to the SAU until 1919, before the SAU took control of the mandate of Southwest Africa. In short, Walvis Bay should be in SAU, as it is

great info, thanks

[bun_dha4 221]

40 minutes ago, Mirolit said:

(QBAM Project, i think?)

just realized that mistake (thanks to you, im not a know-it-all) when i finish the update lmao.

[bun_dha4 221]

3 hours ago, bun_dha4 said:

bukovina and upper silesia have truly been fixed compared to aoh2 in this scenario but...

we sacrifice istria (which still looked innacurate but it's now more), southern dobruja, some part on pomerania that's not illustrated here.
there are wrong borders (arabia-iraq, arabia-jordan, the southern british cameroons, etc) that can't be illustrated with the actual provinces in the game.

and liberia and the portuguese guinea are missing.

and last but not least important:
south africa could use 2 enclaves and a walvis bay
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forgot about this too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Aussa

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lukas the ww2 scenrio is highly inaccurate has incorrect borders, provinces & alot of missing civilizations

[xox 247]

On 6/1/2024 at 5:39 PM, Mirolit said:

In the new video about the WWII scenario, I noticed quite a large number of flaws with borders/ countries:

1) Italian Kingdom. Inaccurate border with Yugoslavia: Ljubljana and present-day western Slovenia were captured by Italy only in 1941 during the partition of Yugoslavia. Thus, Italy has extra provinces north of Istria here. Italy should also have Zadar and a number of islands in the Adriatic south of Istria (including Cres). In addition, it's unclear from the video whether the Dodecanese Islands belong to Italy.

2) Estonia. In 1920-1944, Estonia (later the Estonian SSR) included Ivangorod (Yanilinn in Estonian spelling) and Pechora (Petseri in Estonian spelling, I forgot to circle it on the screenshot).

3) China. There're several mistakes here. I'll start from the upper left corner counterclockwise: there should be Tunganistan (autonomy in southern Xinjiang). The border of Tibet should be much further east, Tibet was adjacent to the Yunnan clique. In addition, independent Tibetan tribes (with whom the Ma clique was at war) were further north. The Sichuan clique should be located to the east of Tibet. The Yunnan clique controlled a large strip to the northeast, with the city of Zhaotong. Besides the New Guangxi clique, there was the Guangdong clique. The Shanghai settlement should be presented as a separate civilization with a guarantee of independence from the Great Powers. In addition, after the First Battle of Shanghai (1932), the rest of Shanghai, Suzhou and Kunshan became a demilitarized zone, so it's also worth making this territory a separate vassal civilization. The territory east of Beijing, which belongs to Japan here, should be a separate Autonomy of Eastern Hubei. In 1936, there were two different Ma cliques (Qinghaian Ma clique and Ningxian Ma clique), which were ruled by different branches of the Ma family. Finally, it's worth renaming "blue" China to the Republic of China, and "red" China to the Chinese Soviet Republic. In fact, there may be even more corrections, but I think that adding Tibetan monastic kingdoms, small cliques, all colonial settlements in China and the Kingdom of Mustang in Nepal would be too much. So the above edits, I think, are sufficient for this part of map.

4) Other flaws. Newfoundland should be a separate dominion (it had an identical status with Canada in 1936). Something strange happened to Spanish Morocco (France controls part of it), there should also be an International Tangier zone in this scenario. Egypt has been de jure independent since 1922, and in 1936 this was confirmed by another treaty (Anglo-Egyptian Sudan remained a colony until the 1950s). Britain should control the southwestern part of modern Cameroon (the so-called British Mandate of Cameroon). Senussi should be in Cyrenaica.

If maps with borders or list of leaders needed to fix these flaws, I can help with that.

Yes

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20 hours ago, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa said:

Yes

20 hours ago, Mirolit said:

A couple of new mistakes: something strange (already reported above) in the Soviet Union (probably just an unassigned province) and a unified Malaysia (in reality, in 1936, there were 9 different colonies and protectorates: Federated Malayan States, 4 non-federated States, Straits-Settlements, Kingdom of Sarawak, North Borneo protectorate and Brunei).

Yes