Separation of Ideology and ruling system - Idea For AOH3

**OwnM3Z0** · July 28

This topic is mostly a rewrite of a previous one i had made that got zero attention because it happened to be posted right as lukasz revealed the 1440 scenario, i remembered the concept and thought why not make it reach more people:

Separation of Ideology and ruling system is an Overhaul concept meant to make ideologies more flexible and make more sense, Ideologies like monarchy and democracy don't really say much about the actual ideology of the civilizations, more about their ruling system/how the Civ's choose a ruler, for example you have communist dictatorships like north korea, china and the USSR, or Capitalist Constitutional Monarchies Like The UK etc..., which is why i propose a complete overhaul of this system that will be both simple and interesting

First: Ruling Systems:

Monarchy

Constitutional Monarchy

Dictatorship

Autocracy

Theocracy

Democracy

Republic

Second: Ideologies:

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Nazism

Capitalism (Default)

Islamism (A Suggestion Of Mine Since this Ideology Is Never Added To Other Games)

The Way this will work is that Depending on your Ruling System, the only change will be Stability and happiness Buffs + a Different Ruling System (as the name suggests)

An example of this would be: the Parliament Concept Lukasz was working on... it will be in place for republics, Democracies, and constitutional monarchies... except the only difference is that constitutional monarchies will have a monarch which will give a 5% happiness boost to the people and has a % of influence the player can decide (allowing for someone to do a monarchist revival if they want or remove the monarch and turn it into a 100% democracy)

The Monarchy system wont be changed, only difference is that each monarch won't have a different Last name like the current system since theyre the same family

Autocracies Is Up To Lukasz to Decide....

Theocracy will either choose a pope like figure to rule OR choose a caliph like figure if with islamism

Yep That's pretty much it

Edited July 28 by OwnM3Z0

**Wayne23lololh** · July 28

I think that making some combinations would be useful for scenarios with more than 500 civs (ex 1444). Maybe the main reason that could make this not easy is about the flag, since it's related to the government tags. So some combinations would make the ruling system influence the flag, and other make ideologies change flag.

Example: Soviet Union; Dictatorship and Communism. Communism would make civilization change its flag.

In addition, there could be "Ideologies" Feudalism and Classical.

Feudal (monarchies) civilizations would rather try to vassalise other countries than actually annex it. This would be changed to Absolutism or

Classical civilizations would be for early scenarios.

P.S. You forgot Republic (and variants) for Ruling System.

**OwnM3Z0** · July 28

1 hour ago, Wayne23lololh said:

I think that making some combinations would be useful for scenarios with more than 500 civs (ex 1444). Maybe the main reason that could make this not easy is about the flag, since it's related to the government tags. So some combinations would make the ruling system influence the flag, and other make ideologies change flag.

Example: Soviet Union; Dictatorship and Communism. Communism would make civilization change its flag.

In addition, there could be "Ideologies" Feudalism and Classical.

Feudal (monarchies) civilizations would rather try to vassalise other countries than actually annex it. This would be changed to Absolutism or

Classical civilizations would be for early scenarios.

P.S. You forgot Republic (and variants) for Ruling System.

yeah i agree, i think flags should only be changed by the ideology since russia for example is currently a dictatorship yet it's not soviet union, i think ideologies are meant to be different methods of governing your civilizations, so feudal and classical governing styles fit right in, i also think some ideologies shouldn't be mixable like communism and monarchy/constitutional monarchy or Nazism/fascism and democracy/republic

and yeah mb i was gonna add it and even mentioned it later but forgot it, one for one since u forgot the andalusi culture thing that i told u about 😅

**Wayne23lololh** · July 28

25 minutes ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

yeah i agree, i think flags should only be changed by the ideology since russia for example is currently a dictatorship yet it's not soviet union, i think ideologies are meant to be different methods of governing your civilizations, so feudal and classical governing styles fit right in, i also think some ideologies shouldn't be mixable like communism and monarchy/constitutional monarchy or Nazism/fascism and democracy/republic

and yeah mb i was gonna add it and even mentioned it later but forgot it, one for one since u forgot the andalusi culture thing that i told u about 😅

Then we're quits now 🙃