Increased desire for freedom among vassals

**Rodak Polak** · September 13

I think that a vassal's desire to regain freedom should increase when he is called to war by his lord.

MamPytanie · September 14

Gut, Gut

**Casual** · September 14

Why?

**Sapajapa222** · September 15

I don't agree

**Rodak Polak** · September 15

19 hours ago, Casual said:

Why?

Because having vassals in AoH 3 is already too strong. Besides, it is logical that if someone forces you to join a war against your will, you will probably not be happy and want to regain your independence. For example why should I, as a vassal of Great Britain, fight for the interests of Great Britain and not get anything in return

**Casual** · September 15

5 hours ago, Rodak Polak said:

Because having vassals in AoH 3 is already too strong. Besides, it is logical that if someone forces you to join a war against your will, you will probably not be happy and want to regain your independence. For example why should I, as a vassal of Great Britain, fight for the interests of Great Britain and not get anything in return

Because you are vassal. You need to fight for interests of the lord because in situation where someone else attack you, lord would support you. That's the meaning of vassals. (And in AoH2 vassal can refuse joining the war. However AI always agrees because that would be annoying)

**Rodak Polak** · September 15

12 minutes ago, Casual said:

Because you are vassal. You need to fight for interests of the lord because in situation where someone else attack you, lord would support you. That's the meaning of vassals. (And in AoH2 vassal can refuse joining the war. However AI always agrees because that would be annoying)

You described an alliance. Being a vassal is not beneficial and is based on exploitation. Therefore, every vassal should strive for freedom

**Casual** · September 15

8 minutes ago, Rodak Polak said:

You described an alliance. Being a vassal is not beneficial and is based on exploitation. Therefore, every vassal should strive for freedom

Alliance is different. Alliance is where two completely independent countries just support and defend eachother. Vassal created when country lose war agains another country and MUST support interests of the lord. But lord wouldn't let another country take own vassal.

Yeah, vassal should strive for freedom. But not like that! Even in real world vassals uprises by only valuable reasons, like mass terror, really high taxes or when lord becomes weak.