Can u & ai change religions mid game

[usernamelplol 28]

Can u & can they?

[usernamelplol 28]

Hm?

[Łukasz Jakowski 8,621]

Only through an event outcome or peace demands. (Religion of Civilization)

[qxz 541]

11 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Only through an event outcome or peace demands. (Religion of Civilization)

So the player can not manually change the religion themselves? 

[Łukasz Jakowski 8,621]

There is no other way during the game.

It can be changed in the editors.

[usernamelplol 28]

20 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

There is no other way during the game.

It can be changed in the editors.

Oh so whatever religion a country has by start its stuck with for the entire game welp lol

Maybe there can be a event or something that changes it

 

(Ignore this i only for some reason read the 2nd reply i didnt see the first)

Edited 6 hours ago by usernamelplol

[Unity 583]

Just now, usernamelplol said:

Oh so whatever religion a country has by start its stuck with for the entire game welp lol

Maybe there can be a event or something that changes it

If you read, he literally said an event can

20 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Only through an event outcome or peace demands. (Religion of Civilization)

 

[qxz 541]

11 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

There is no other way during the game.

It can be changed in the editors.

I do not think that is right though.

It not only hinders the player's ability to follow historical paths such as the Reformation in England during the 1500s. Now I get that it can be made using events, but would that not be seen as 'railroaded' in terms of the player being led into reforming into Protestantism in the example above?

What if me playing as England, wanted to convert to other religions like Islam or Eastern Orthodoxy? Would the modder have to place tenths of events just to make it a possibility? 

Religion has also played a massive part in diplomacy and alliances. Allowing a player to mix and match religions to join certain alliances or perform other diplomatic actions can create a sense of strategic depth, which can not be achieved using the system currently in-place, where a player would need to wait for a certain event to pop-up (as I understand it) and choose to convert.

Some might like this no doubt, but I have never seen anyone do this like this, this not only limits the player in their actions and immersion, but also limits replayability where the player simply can not enjoy more paths except those which have already been in place. 

Edited 6 hours ago by qxz

[usernamelplol 28]

16 minutes ago, Unity said:

If you read, he literally said an event can

 

OMG MY BAD I ONLY SAW THW 2ND REPLY

[Łukasz Jakowski 8,621]

Added an option to change religion during the game.

 

 

 

 

[usernamelplol 28]

1 minute ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Added an option to change religion during the game.

 

 

 

 

Lukas check my last post about the ui please

[Marerjh 148]

4 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Added an option to change religion during the game.

 

 

 

 

Wow, it was fast. I noticed that stability didn't changed. Does provinces convert to the new religion as well? 

[YusufAliDE 201]

8 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Added an option to change religion during the game.

 

 

 

 

religion of the provinces doesn't change, does it?

[Łukasz Jakowski 8,621]

Stability will be updated.

Provinces doesn't convert to new religion.

 

[Marerjh 148]

1 minute ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Stability will be updated.

Provinces doesn't convert to new religion.

 

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[eNeXPii 24]

The nation should be in life treating state after change!

[Rodak Polak 557]

54 minutes ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Added an option to change religion during the game.

Prośba

Wydaje mi się, że zmiana religii państwowej zawsze odbywała się pod naciskiem siły zewnętrznej. Czy to militarnej czy dyplomatycznej. Więc pierwotny pomysł zmiany religii tylko podczas rozmów pokojowych był moim zdaniem o niebo lepszy. No ale trudno, jak lud tak chce, to niech już będzie...

Ale mam prośbę w związku z tym - żeby ta opcja nie była wykorzystywana przez sztuczną inteligencję. Jak jakiś gracz chce sobie w kraju zmienić religie to niech sobie zmienia (może opcję zmiany religii lepiej byłoby dodać w trybie piaskownicy), ale wykorzystywanie tego mechanizmu przez sztuczną inteligencję uważam za słaby pomysł

[Rodak Polak 557]

Ewentualnie tak jak kiedyś pisałem zmiana religii mogła by się dokonywać na podstawie religii władcy (tak, żeby gracz nie miał na to wpływu bezpośredniego). Czyli szansa wylosowania konkretnej religii władcy zależy od odsetka danej religii w kraju. Np.: 64% katolików i 36% prawosławnych = szansa wylosowania katolickiego władcy byłaby równa 64%, a prawosławnego 36%. Religia władcy byłaby religią państwową. Jeśli gracz chciałby sobie zwiększyć szansę wylosowania prawosławnego władcy to musiałby podbić więcej prowincji prawosławnych.

Taka opcja byłaby ciekawsze i wymagała większego planowania i zaangażowania niż zwykłe wciśnięcie opcji "zmień religię"

Edited 4 hours ago by Rodak Polak

[muhoaga 96]

1 hour ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

Kararlılık güncellenecektir.

İller yeni dine dönmez.

 

Maybe 0.40 per month

0.15 so slow 

[Łukasz Jakowski 8,621]

game/gameValues/GV_CivStability.json

{
	CS_MAX_VALUE: 1.0,
	
	CS_SCORE_NON_CORE: 0.75,
	CS_SCORE_DIFFERENT_RELIGION: 0.75,
	
	CS_SCORE_MAX_PER_PROVINCE: 0.08,
	
	CS_UNREST_PER_POINT: 0.2,
	CS_UNREST_NON_CORE_PER_POINT: 0.2,
	CS_UNREST_DIFFERENT_RELIGION_PER_POINT: 0.2,
	
	CS_UNREST_PERC_MIN: 0.65,
	CS_UNREST_PERC_GROWTH_RATE: 0.007,
	
	CS_ARMY_MORALE_RECOVERY_PER_POINT: -0.4,
	
	CS_WARSCORE_COST_PER_POINT: 0.75,
}

 

[Taquito_Dictador 48]

Hace 2 horas, Łukasz Jakowski dijo:

Se actualizará la estabilidad.

Las provincias no se convierten en la nueva religión.

 

 

So is it possible that there will be rebellion or civil war with low stability when the religion changes?

Edited 2 hours ago by Taquito_Dictador