Demanded Provinces: A Price to Pay

[Łukasz Jakowski 9,973]

In a peace treaty, when a civilization demands provinces from another civilization, all demanded provinces will experience a reduction in tax efficiency, economy, manpower, and growth rate to reflect resistance against the aggressor.

However, if the civilization has a core in the province, the province will not lose any of these values.

 

Values can be changed in: game/gameValues/GV_Diplomacy.json

[OwnM3Z0 949]

this is pretty nice, maybe try adding a small population decrease to reflect people migrating away to be within the new borders, i think its a good idea and quite realistic

[neverger84 52]

It is possible to through editing that value add some unrest percentage literally too?
Like not to unrest growth but immediately +10% to unrest right after demand for example

Edited 16 hours ago by neverger84

[ARWD 84]

3 minutes ago, OwnM3Z0 said:

this is pretty nice, maybe try adding a small population decrease to reflect people migrating away to be within the new borders, i think its a good idea and quite realistic

Man you have great ideas you always amaze us with your ideas

[Dipto479 86]

local manpower -90%

Edited 16 hours ago by Dipto479

[Dipto479 86]

if Democratic Ideology + weekly unrest growth

[DRM 28]

ln addition to the mentioned reductions, the demanded provinces could experience a slight temporary decrease in the production of basic resources, reflecting the adjustment of control by the aggressor civilization.

[Wayne23lololh 1,479]

Nice feature !

new civs in Genoa!

[qxz 572]

I believe it should also suffer from population decline, reflecting the migration of the local population to their core provinces.

[Omar2806 4]

Excuse my ignorance , what are the core mechanics ? what is it and what does it do 🤡

[Łukasz Jakowski 9,973]

Core is a legitimate part of Civilization.

[Mr. Rufus 21]

1 hour ago, Omar2806 said:

Excuse my ignorance , what are the core mechanics ? what is it and what does it do 🤡

if  had a dollar for how many times someone has asked that and how many times Lukasz has answered that, i'd be Elon Musk at this point

[Praefectus Italicum 33]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Rufus said:

if  had a dollar for how many times someone has asked that and how many times Lukasz has answered that, i'd be Elon Musk at this point

we need a AOH dictionary at this point)))))))

[KingoftheHams 0]

Is this a permanent decrease or does the rates go back up after a point?

[Marerjh 194]

Way too punishing reductions... wasn't tax reduction in non-cored provinces enought? Loosing half the economy after annexation will make wars pointless...

[sc00614 21]

If there is a more obvious core territory mechanism in the game, can the AI prefer to establish vassals for non-core territories after the war based on this mechanism, rather than directly seizing them?

[YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan 143]

2 hours ago, Marerjh said:

Way too punishing reductions... wasn't tax reduction in non-cored provinces enought? Loosing half the economy after annexation will make wars pointless...

Not if its a country with double your economy.

[Marerjh 194]

3 hours ago, YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan said:

Not if its a country with double your economy.

Good luck conquering country with double the economy🫠

[YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan 143]

6 minutes ago, Marerjh said:

Good luck conquering country with double the economy🫠

Ever heard of the Console?

[Marerjh 194]

7 minutes ago, YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan said:

Ever heard of the Console?

I'm talking about balance during normal gameplay. The console is used for fun, and its functionality cannot be taken into account when balancing game mechanics. 

[YouravaragebrazilianAoCfan 143]

26 minutes ago, Marerjh said:

I'm talking about balance during normal gameplay. The console is used for fun, and its functionality cannot be taken into account when balancing game mechanics. 

fair point 

[Marerjh 194]

14 hours ago, Łukasz Jakowski said:

In a peace treaty, when a civilization demands provinces from another civilization, all demanded provinces will experience a reduction in tax efficiency, economy, manpower, and growth rate to reflect resistance against the aggressor.

However, if the civilization has a core in the province, the province will not lose any of these values.

 

Values can be changed in: game/gameValues/GV_Diplomacy.json

With this feature included, we need a way to gain cores, because currently it is simply not possible. Either by events (lack of "add core" outcome is just crazy) or espionage 😛

Edited 2 hours ago by Marerjh